i give beau coup money to charity to try to -- the greater good is served by having a law that is being mandated, all right? , imposed on the population clear number one and functional number two. and neither of those things are happening doctor. >> bill, you have to remember this law is not effecting the vast majority of the population. vast who get insurance from employer or government are not affected by this law. this is not a takeover. >> we don't know that yet. the law is only six weeks old. we don't know that yet. but the evidence rolling in is that the suffering being caused by the law is much more intense than the help it is going to give. all right you and i have a gentleman's disagreement on that. that's just what we have $400,000 taxpayer money given to you. you earned it. i'm sure that you spent a lot of time on this. but now you are being criticized for it that's. >> go ahead. i was technical consultant to the department of health and human services. basically i have a computer model that helps the administration and congress decide how to structure this law that computer